A SEPARATE PEACE – Forgiveness

True or False?  You should always forgive a true friend – no matter what he or she has done.  Explain.

Remember – you must respond to this post AND reply to something someone else says.  Don’t forget ANALYSIS – Let’s dig deep and look at the more complex issues in this story.  Good luck!

69 Comments

  1. Caleb Mahon said,

    Yes,if they are most certainly your “true” friend than no matter what the circumstances you should forgive them for the “wrong” that they have done.

    • Jake Stafford said,

      Caleb you are right but to an extent. I mean I will forgive my true friends for a lot, but I am not going to forgive a friend if they are like trying to kill me, or like do something on that level but yeah you should be able to forgive my true friends.

      • hramage said,

        Thank you Jake. I am talking about serious forgiveness. For example, what if your friend pushes you off a tree branch and you can never walk again? Or what if your friend gets drunk, drives, and accidentally gets in a car accident that kills your parents?

      • Caleb Mahon said,

        I think even if your friend kills your parents or something that they should no longer be their friend but, you should still forgive them and not hold grudges or take revenge because, that is how wars start

      • Shea said,

        i agree with jake, their has to be some line that they cant cross. a place where you can say that if they do something that they just cant be forgiven.

      • Ejup said,

        If my friend pushes me off a tree and i get paralyzed I’m going to ask for help, even if he’s the only one that can hear me. If he doesn’t help then I would die, even if i forgive him it wouldn’t matter.

        Lets say that after he pushes me off of the branch he helps me and he seems worried. If that happened i would forgive him, it was an unintended consequence. Yes, i wouldn’t be able to walk again but I would understand that he didn’t mean for me to get hurt. If I don’t understand that he didn’t mean to hurt me then maybe I’m not the true friend.

      • Charlie Davidson said,

        I agree with you, Jake. What makes a true friend is trust, forgiveness, and acceptance. You can have an okay friend without acceptance, but you can’t have a friend without trust. Trust will break the friendship bond.

  2. Jake Stafford said,

    Yes you should be able to forgive a true friend no matter what he or she has done. I mean if your true friend does something so bad to you that you can’t forgive them than they are not your true friend. If someone is your true friend they do something to you or to someone else it is something so small that it is very easy to forgive, but once it starts getting hard to forgive your friends it starts to get to the point of a friend but not a true friend.

    • Lindsey Marquardt! said,

      I agree with you Jake in the fact that once it starts getting hard forgiving a true friend, they stop being a true friend. But if something so tragic happens like the examples that Mrs. Ramage was giving, I don’t think I could forgive them completly. Even of it was an accident I would probably still continue to stay good friends with them, but a
      part of me would never forget what they had done. I guess I don’t really know how I
      would handel the situation considering nothing that horrific has never happened in my life. ( knock on wood)

      • Kristen Hansen said,

        Lindsey i agree with you. if something so terrible would happen then I’m not sure if I could truly forget 110%. i think there is a fine line (to tell you the truth I’m not sure where this “line” is..) where forgiving is the right thing to do to be the good person. but something I think also needs to be taken into consideration is the severity of the deed and weather it was done purposely or not.

    • Kierstennn(: said,

      Yes, I completely agree with Jake. You “should” be able to forgive the person if they truly are your true friend.

    • Morgan MacInnis said,

      I 100% agree with you Jake. If it starts getting hard for you to forgive a friend then they definetly cannot be considered a true friend anymore. An accident is when someone is being careless and if an accident is truly an accident then the person who prefomed the act will take credit for what they did. I agree with Lindsey also in the fact that I am not sure what I would do if I were but in this situation.

  3. Lindsey Marquardt! said,

    I think you should without a doubt forgive a true friend no matter what they do. I think even if they are just a friend you should be able to forgive them. Everyone makes mistakes and if you were not good enough of a person to forgive, why would anyone want to be your friend in the first place? It takes a really strong person to forgive. That is why we should all strive to have forgivness in our lives.

    • Eisha said,

      Lindsey, I think this is completly true. So many people make mistakes and arent forgiven, and then friendships are ruined and drama begins, and if only we would just forgive people for stupid mistakes they made, then we would all live little happier. If you cant forgive then why should you be forgiven?

    • Sam Herscovitz said,

      Lindsey i have to agree with you on this one. It takes a very strong, and good person to forgive a friend for something of that extent. It’s even harder to forgive somebody that’s not your friend to even begin with. And Eisha I also have to agree with you because we have all made a minor, or major mistakes at one point in our lives, and have wanted to be forgiven for something we have done in the past, that we wish we had never done. If it’s saying something mean, or even pushing someone off a tree like in this case, we all deserve forgiveness.

  4. Kristen Hansen said,

    Truthfully, i think this question deserves a FALSE.
    There are some things too severe to forgive even a true friend for. if this true friend would do something so terrible to question your friendship i doubt this person is truly a good friend at all. you may forgive to an extent depending on the act that was performed, but there is a point where forgiveness should be exercised and you should question if this person really deserves forgiveness after all.

    • Maddie said,

      I do agree with you Kristen. I think that forgiveness needs to be earned, and not just given.
      It really does depend on what action this true friend took, but if it was that horrible, they are obviously not a true friend.
      Although it may be hard, it’s easier to have an acquaintance than an enemy, and it would be a better thing to forgive them to the extend of which you think they deserve, but they shouldn’t promise that they will be friends as they were before.

  5. Shea said,

    false, if some one hurts you too bad there is almost no way you can truly forgive them. mots things you should forgive them for if they are a “true friend” but some things just cant be forgiven.

    • Kierstennn(: said,

      Yes Shea, if someone is just too horrible, then they shouldn’t have been your friend in the first place.

    • Emilyyy. said,

      Shea, i can see where you’re coming from with the fact that you feel like you can never forgive a friend for somethings. I have to disagree with what you said about, if someone hurts you too bad you can never forgive them because in my opinion, it may be really hard to forgive someone and it may take years to do so but it’s important that you get to a place in your life where you can learn to “let go”. I’m not saying if your true friend did something so seriously devastating like accidentally catching your house on fire that you need to just let go of all anger towards them and forgive them and then all of a sudden be best friends again. It is important though, to try to get past what they did. You may never talk to that person again and not be there friend but holding onto things just causes bunches of more problems.

      • Abby said,

        Emily, I really agree with you. You should always try to forgive someone, even if it takes a loooong time, but that doesn’t mean you have to like them. I also think you have to put yourself in the other person’s shoes. If you did something horrible, on purpose or accidently and you, lets say, killed someone because you were drunk driving, you would (hopefully) feel TERRIBLE about it. What if you went to someone in their family and begged for their forgiveness, because just imagine the guilt you would have. And what if they said they will never forgive you, you are a horrible person, and they hope you die. You would have to live with that the rest of your life. It’s just such a hard call.

  6. Kierstennn(: said,

    I think that forgiving a true friend is easy. Take my friends and I for example: We get into fights one day, but the next day, we are all buddies again, and sometimes we even forget what we fought about. The thing about forgiveness is, you have to truly feel forgiveness towards the other person. If someone is just horrible to you, then they shouldn’t be your true friend in the first place, but if it’s something like “stealing your cookie,” then you should definitely forgive them, but only if you truly do feel you should. Like last year, every day, the person I thought was a true friend would say things like, “You’re too tall…You’re too blonde…You’re too quiet.” And things like that would make me feel awful. So I am no longer friends with that person. I tried to forgive, but when things that make you feel horrible are repeated every day, it just makes things complicated.

    So, yes. You can forgive a friend, but only if you truly feel you should.

    • Jenny Vardanega said,

      I agree with you Kiersten. It can be hard to forgive a person who intenionally hurts you. If you feel that they have done something so bad, you have a choice to let it go or not.

  7. Jenny Vardanega said,

    It is true that to be a good friend you sould forgive and forget. Sometimes though, it may take a period of time, or you may never forgive them completely. Somethings, like what happened to Finney, can ruin friendships. The person has to be extemely…..to let a thing like that go, forgive, and cope with it the rest of their life. Only certain kinds of people can do that. I don’t know if that person would be me or not, because I have never had to experience a HUGE tragity that could influence the rest of my life because of someone elses responsibilty. I guess the choice is up to you.

    • Jenny Vardanega said,

      sorry posted it too soon!

  8. Jenny Vardanega said,

    It is true that to be a good friend you sould forgive and forget. Sometimes though, it may take a period of time, or you may never forgive them completely. Somethings, like what happened to Finney, can ruin friendships. The person has to be extemely noble to let a thing like that go, forgive, and cope with it the rest of their life. Only certain kinds of people can do that. I don’t know if that person would be me or not, because I have never had to experience a HUGE tragity that could influence the rest of my life because of someone elses responsibilty. I guess the choice is up to you.

  9. Eisha said,

    Everyone thinks differently on what should be forgiven and what shouldnt be so it depends on who you are and what your friend has done. I would say no, you shouldn’t ALWAYS forgive a friend. You should forgive a friend when forgivness is earned or deserved. If a friend were to have done something such as spill juice on my h.w. on accident then of course you should forgive them. But if they do something such as kill your dog you should not forgive them unless they have a very good reason for doing so.

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  10. Ejup said,

    No, you shouldn’t always forgive a friend. In the question you’re saying “true friend”, I don’t really know what you mean by that because friends change. I’m not saying to never forgive a friend but there is a line that cannot be crossed. If the so called “true friend” insults you, talks behind your back, points out your flaws, etc. then they obviously shouldn’t be forgiven. However you should always talk to him/her to see if they had a good reason for doing what they did, maybe someone they loved was in a tragic accident. You never know what they could be going through so ask them before forgetting about them.

    • MaKayla Davis said,

      I agree on some points. If they truely were your friend they wouldn’t be saying stuff behide your back or something like that. But, if they were your true friend, wouldnt you want to try and save your friendship? I would, if they mean that much to me.

    • Danny Romjue said,

      I think that not being there friend because they gossip is a little bit much because if i got rid of every friend i have for gossiping then nobody anywhere would have any friends what so ever, as well friends do change which is very true one of my dad’s sayings is “the only thing consent is change” which applies to that very well.

  11. Morgan MacInnis said,

    I think you shouldn’t always forgive a friend. If your true friend would do something so terrible to jeopardize your friendship then they shouldnt have even been your friend in the first place. Depending on the situation, I think determines if you should forgive them or not. It is hard forgiving people for their wrong doing, but it also will be hard for your friend waking up everyday realizing the wrong they had done.

    • Dustin Vance said,

      true dat Morgan. i feel the same way about that. it all depents on the thing he did so its not an easy question to answer.

  12. MaKayla Davis said,

    Yes, I think you should always forgive a friend. But not if they tried to like, kill my cat or something. If they just made a mistake, I would forgive them for whatever wrong thing they did.

  13. Dustin Vance said,

    This is a verry tough question. it can go one way or the other. i feel that you should forgive them no matter what. Unless it involves sertain illegal subejects. For example if your best friend murded your mom or dad for no reson or on purpose would you forgive him? if he/she sexually abused your kid would you forgive him? I wouldnt. little stuff i will al ways forgive my friends but if it permanently hurts my famly emotionally and mentaly i wont. Unless it was accidental.

    • Haley Wight! said,

      This is so completely true Dustin. I agree with you on the part where you said, “Your best friend murdered your mom or dad for no reason or on purpose would you forgive him?” No I would not forgive him, but if he is really your BEST friend would he have murdered your parents on purpose? No. He is clearly not a true friend if he is willing to kill a loved one of yours.

      I feel that in this situation (depending on what the friend does), that you need to sit down and think about what your friend did, and consider what will happen if you forgive them, or not. If they did something way over the line, you shouldn’t have to forgive them if you don’t want to. But I personally think that if this person was a true friend, they would never do anything bad towards you. If they are willing to hurt your feelings, then they aren’t willing to be a true friend.

  14. Haley Wight! said,

    I’m going to have to say yes on this one. You should always forgive a true friend. And if they do something horrible or completely wrong, and they know that you are going to be disappointing in them, then apparently, they aren’t a true friend. But yes, you should always forgive a true friend no matter what they do, just as long as they are a TRUE friend.

    • Morgan said,

      Haley, I really have too agree with you. If they knew, that you would be dissapointed in them or mad, then I guess they really didnt care that much and that proves they ar not really a true friend.

  15. truman said,

    i think it all deppends on the incedent and how deep it cuts into you.like they should be forgiven if they like kill your cat on accident and they have a legit accident story.but,if they do something like somehow killing a family member,then its time to shun them.i havent read deep enough in the book to the part that you guys are talking about,thanks for ruining it,but i did get to the part were the narrator is just getting into the hospital.but,from just what you guys are saying,i dont think finny should forgive him for pushing him off the tree because his proffesional sports dreams are ruined.

  16. truman said,

    ejup,its not that big of a deal if a friend insults you,i mean you probably had it coming to you by doing something to them.however,there is cases were they just turn on you for no reason.

  17. Danny Romjue said,

    I truly think it depends on what the friend did to you that they want forgiveness for. In example if your friend stole your cookie at lunch its kinda like boo hoo, just suck it up.At the same time if your friend stole all of your money and wasted it that is a big difference compared to taking a simple cookie. So i really think it depends on what the friend did yo you on whether to forgive them or not.

    • Johnny Kang said,

      I believe what you said about how it depends on what they did to you is true. If somebody took my cookie, I wouldn’t care either because it’s just a cookie, you can get them anywhere and I would forgive them. If somebody stole all my money, I would be mad that I would never be able to forgive them and talk to them ever again. If they tried to kill me ruin my life, or hurt my family, I would never be able to forgive them ever again. If your friend truly hurt you, then it depends if you are going to forgive them or not. Also, I agree about how it depends if you could forgive them or not even if it was a big or small incident.

    • sandra hales said,

      Well with the book Gene made Finny fall from the tree so i still think he should be forgiven because he tries to right the wrong he’s done. Even though Finny may never be able to do sports again Gene had only wanted to get back at him for being so good at everything, his problem in doing that was he did not think of the consequences of doing it. He may have acted on impulse not thinking through what he was doing. And if you recall he jumps into the river after almost in aww at what he had just done.

    • Sam Margheim said,

      I totally agree with you Danny. BOO HOO it is a cookie. Money is different, maybe you worked real hard for that money. and you were saving up. So it really does depend on what your “true friend” did to you.

  18. Emilyyy. said,

    This statement is definitely a tuffy. I think that there are different levels of mistakes but forgiveness will not always solve the problem but it does help to overcome resentments. I think if your true friend makes a mistake you should forgive them for being human but this doesn’t mean you will always “forgive and forget”. If you are in a situation where your friend did something that is putting you or you family in any sort of danger; or they did something that made it so you can’t trust that person anymore, it may be you forgive them but chose to end the relationship. Forgiving is a very hard thing to do. Being human, if my true friend did something that lost my trust my first instinct is to hold onto what they did and hold it against them. I believe that forgiving is very healthy because not forgiving will make you feel like you are better than that person and you judge them. Not forgiving you think will make you feel better than just giving in but it will make you feel sick. It’s better to forgive your friend and then decided if they’re still a true friend.

    • Paige Wheeler said,

      I agree with you. I didn’t even really think about actually physical harm that a friend could do to you or your family and I’m glad you pointed that out because it is completely true. Your friends can make your worst enemies, so I think to start out with you should choose your friends wisely. I choose to forgive everyone because if I don’t forgive them who will? How would they be able to fix their mistake and not beat themselves up for it if I don’t forgive them? Besides, there is always the golden rule, “Treat others how you want to be treated.” How would you feel if we flipped the tables? You are the one that messed up and your friend is really mad at you. You have repaired the damage that you have done and everyone else doesn’t sit by you and no one is your friend because they know you messed up. Now the one person that normally would have been on your side hates you. So everyday you beat yourself up about the situation because there you are sitting by yourself at lunch. Now if your best friend would forgive you, life would be better for the both of you. Or even another scenario. You don’t forgive your friend who messed up and then later you mess up and she/he won’t forgive you. “There are so many problems that can result from not forgiving others, and yet all you lose by forgiving, is your selfishness and pride.” (Quoted by Paige Wheeler September 19)

  19. Johnny Kang said,

    I believe you shouldn’t always forgive your true friend. The only time you should ever forgive a true friend is if they did something that would not completely affect you. If your friend stole your boyfriend or girlfriend, it’s not really their fault because it’s your boyfriends or girlfriends problem that they were lured by other people, so I think this is one where it shouldn’t affect you and that you could forgive them for doing it. If your friend was to close to you that you would give them your code or password like to Facebook and they started to write false things about other people or to you, then I would say you can’t forgive them for doing that. If your friend is true, than forgive them if it’s something that is forgivable.

  20. Abby said,

    I think that this is a hard question because there are a million different situations where I would forgive my friend, and a ton when I wouldn’t. Actually I think you should always forgive someone if they come and apologize. That usually means that they are sorry for what they have done and want you to know that they have thought about it and really want you to know that they are sorry. You just don’t have to keep being their friend. You can make the agreement of, “yeah, that’s nice of you to apoligize but if you just purposely did something out of spite to hurt me in some way, so I’m not gonna be your best buddy anymore!!!” Like if some random person killed my mom or dad in a car crash. I they came and sincerely apologized, I would be still completely devestated and have a feeling beyond loss, but I would try to forgive them, even though I would still probably hate them. Gosh this stuff is so sad to think about!!!!!

    Or if your friend does a bunch of littler things, you can kinda start to get the picture that they shouldn’t be your friend anymore.

    The person should also really be sorry if they are apologizing. It reminds me of when I would get in a fight with my sister and my mom would make me apologize, even though it was DEFINITELY her fault. 🙂 I was never really sorry.

  21. Paige Wheeler said,

    Forgiveness-

  22. Maddie said,

    True, I think you should always forgive. Especially somebody who was your best friend.
    If they are willing to work things out, then its up to you to help them.

    Depending on how bad or how much it hurt you, is what I think you should think about before you trust them again.

  23. Paige Wheeler said,

    Forgiveness-
    This is a hard topic for most people to wrap their heads around because in our world today, revenge among friends is very popular. I think that you should forgive your friends for whatever they do. Even if they aren’t your best friends, or even if they are your enemy I think you should forgive them. Now, don’t get me wrong, forgiveness to me is forgiving their wrong-doing however they will still have to earn the right to be called your friend if what they did is bad enough. I would definitely talk to them about what they did because sometimes it is just a misunderstanding. I guess that’s just my take about it. I forgive everyone but they have to earn my trust back.

  24. Charlie Davidson said,

    Forgiveness is an important part of friendship, but I don’t think it should be unqualified. If they continue to say or do terrible things, I wouldn’t want to be friends with them anymore. If they intentionally hurt me and didn’t regret what they did, then there would be no way I’d forgive them. Forgiveness is an important part of friendship, but trust is a higher priority.

    • Cassidy said,

      I stongly agree with you on this Charlie. If they still do bad things then it shows that they’re not your true friend if they knew how much you didn’t like it but they kept it up then it’s not ment to be. And yes trust is a very huge priority in having a truefriend in your life. I couldn’t agree witth you more.

  25. Cassidy said,

    I’m going to say yes, you should always forgive a true friend. No matter what that friend did i’m sure they didn’t mean to do it and made a mistake, we all make mistakes and we should all forgive and forget. Well maybe not forget but stop bringing the situation up. Forgiving is a big part in having a true bestfriend, but if you don’t forgive them it shows that you’re not a true friend. If they’re willing to apoligize and work things out then you should be able to too. Also by not forvgiving a friend it probably makes them feel more worse then they already are.

    • Sammie Hendrickson said,

      Cassidy, I agree with what you said about forgiving and forgetting. And, how you said not necessarily forgetting, but moving on. I know if I ever get mad at someone and they do apologize, it makes it a lot easier to forgive them. If they say sorry then they want to be back in your life, and regret what they did.

  26. Morgan said,

    Well, if they are a “true” friend I think you should definatly forgive them but what if the thing they did is extremely bad? I dont really know what I would do because I have never been in that position where my friends have done something so bad that I couldnt forgive them. I think it usually depends on the situation.

    • Alix Raya said,

      I agree with you morgan. It does kinda depend on the situation. If it was something illegal like a murder or something could you really forgive that person? I honestly dont think so. Every situation i have been through with my friends could be very easily resolved but i have never had any big issues with my TRUE friends. Because they are my true friends for a reason because they dont do anything to risk our friendship. But it definately can depend on the sistuation.

  27. Sammie Hendrickson said,

    When a true friend does something bad enough like push you off a branch or something in that category, I would be asking myself how true of a friend they really are. Sure if it’s a minor mistake you always forgive them because they have been in your life with you helping you out. Everyone does make mistakes, and hopefully they would learn from their own.

    • Madie Darr :) said,

      I agree with you Sammie. You wouldn’t think that a true friend would do anything that could have the potential to hurt their friend. If somebody is a true friend then you would think that they would be doing whatever it is they could to make your life better. In a friendship you should always be trying to lift the other person up, not tear them down.

  28. sandra hales said,

    Yes, i think forgiveness is a must. When you think about it maybe if your friend did what they did on purpose they still might be sincerely sorry. when thinking in their shoes maybe they went on impulse so they may not have thought of the consequences. So i think you should forgive them if they tell you their sincerely sorry.

  29. Sam Margheim said,

    I think you should forgive one of your very close friends if they do something wrong. If they aren’t a “true Friend” the there are different rules. In A Separate Piece Finny does forgive Gene for purposely jounced the limb. The consequence was Finny shattering his leg. Gene went to Finnys’ house had apologized. Finny knows that he and Gene are true friends and he forgave him.

    • Hailee Holmason (: said,

      i agree with you, but I think if Gene really was Phineas’s true friend he wouldn’t have tried to kill him! But how Phineas forgave him, that was an act of true kindness towards him and in Phineas’s eyes they are true friends.

  30. Hailee Holmason (: said,

    Personally i would answer true and false. If you have a true friend, you wouldn’t have to worry about it in the first place. But if it isn’t a true friend then you shouldn’t be wasting your time on them or being around them. If they are really, truly sorry and are your true friend then i believe you should forgive them and move on from whatever then problem was. I guess it all depends on how you handle the situation.

  31. Sam Herscovitz said,

    I think yous should always forgive a close friend. If it is clear that they are sorry and wish they hadn’t done it, then you must. I also believe they must gain your trust back, because depending on the gravity of the situation, the forgiveness process might take a while. I also depends on how wrong the friend has done, is it an ongoing thing? Do they regret it? and how severe was it? Maybe if its a thing that is being repeated over and over again, it’s time for the relationship to end, yet you might still consider forgiving them even though you might not be friend s with them anymore.

  32. Madie Darr :) said,

    I would say that depends definatly on your definition of a “true friend”. For the most part yes, you shoud always try your best to forgive people because holding anger and grudges will only hurt you. Also just because you have forgiven somebody doesn’t mean that you have to be close with them again. I had fiends that I was close with when I was younger and we had gotten in fights and we have totally forgiven eachother; but we aren’t close. Forgiving people isn’t easy but living in anger at somebody, especially somebody that you might love or have to see everyday, the only thing holding it against them will do is harm you. Because eventually people move on and you don’t want to be the person whom is reminding everybody of the past.

  33. Alix Raya said,

    I have to say yes on this one. If the person is a true friend they will regret what they have done. But i do not think you always have to forgive a friend. But a true friend goes deeper than that. If it was your best friend, someone you have been through everything with and they do something you dont agree with you shouldn’t just leave them. Is it really worth letting go all the good memories and moments you shared together over something the person did? If the person is truely sorry about what they did i believe you should forgive them. Only if it is a true friend.

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  35. Olivia said,

    So I was supposed to comment this a long time ago, but this is better then never, aye?
    My true friends would not stab me in the back, at least not badly enough that I would feel I could never forgive them. If they did, then I imagine it just depends on what they did. If they killed somebody, then yes, obviously I would not forgive them. But, if it was something as simple as steeling five dollars from me, then yes, I would forgive me, even though it would take time to gain back trust. My opinion is that it depends on what the friend does, if you should or should not forgive them.

    • Olivia Cooper lol said,

      Yes, Olivia. That is so true. I completely agree with your statement. You are so good at this. I think this should most definately be give an A plus. (Sorry, no plus sign on this keyboard).

      PS, I know I said “my” friends, but I figured this was supposed to look like when I knew less, and the question was my opinion, so I guess it’s all good.

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